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05/12/2016

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Robert

Clearly Perez and Ordaz are now out of Escobar's graces.

question

"Jose Corona " ? The Deadbeat Dad ?

Culo from El Chuco

The report is even more hilarious. Please post it. I am so sorry but the last thing you do when you're drunk and belligerent is tell anyone who you are. She threw her name around as if more than 20% of registered voters even voted in her election. News flash: No one gives a damn enough to show up to vote and even less to look the other way while you are keeping us good behaving drunks from enjoying our number #1 with bacon.

Thomas

Max
Th real story here is the criminal leaking of government documents. Sorry to tell the morons in El Paso but leaking such documents is unlawful and some one should be charged and prosecuted.
So Boys and Girls who could that be! Jaime claims Niland is the one but believe he is wrong on that one and is trying to deflect attention away from the real guilty party.
So what other CC member has had a long running beef with Ordaz and no love loss? Think hard!

Chulo from El Chuco

Thomas, shut up. You're missing the hilarity in all this. She threw her name around. What a genius.

Thomas

Chulo from El Chuco
First you can eat me! Typical stupid in El Paso and proud of it. A crime was committed but hey no big deal. Then it shows what is really wrong with El Paso and why corruption is open in El Paso government and it's King. Yep you are an imbecile and have proven you are proud of it! Just another poster child for El Paso stupid!

billy

too silly. but someone has got it out for Ordaz, & Perez should have expected it. glad ep times printed the article. The only untouchables are byrd & escobar. so sad. Another thing, Byrd should wear clothes that match her age & get out of those ugly kids clothing. Byrd should be arrested for dressing like a hooker.Now that's a real crime.

Juana

Max -- if the Times wrote about policy, no one would read it. Really -- policy? What policy? I don't see many policy articles in The Washington Post. They have run a bajillion articles on why they don't like Trump but nothing on his policy or Clinton's either, for that matter. They did run a story on Clinton's voice. Why would you expect a paper in El Paso to break with news reporting tradition and write about policy?

And, Thomas, you're a jerk. You repeat that same phrase every time someone questions you. You are a miserable person.

Thomas

Juana
You can eat me too! It's people like Chulo from El Chuco and you that are the examples of the problem with El Paso that just look the other way when the bullshit is going on in local government and try to pass it off as no but deal. Yep will keep saying it you and others like you are one more example of stupid in El Paso and proud of it. We get it the corruption makes El Paso feel down home for some and you.Yep what you guys do by standing around with your thumbs up your asses when corruption is taking place in your local government and do nothing,zero, is the real crime.So go blow me moron. Seems some take offence when someone tell the truth in El Paso. So Juana go eat a big heaping helping of typical El Paso bull shit PC maybe that will make you feel better.

Beligerent drunnks need to stay home

There is nothing left of Thomas because everyone ate him.

This really is a non-story. But the Times is a non-ethical news-rag that posts gossip and not the news that truly affects us. They should at least be fair and if they do it for one, they should do it for everyone.

Thomas, you are way off course. Nothing had to be "leaked". Nowadays, everyone has a cell that takes video. Someone in the parking lot probably heard the banshee screaming who she is. They take video and send it to a blogger. The blogger does an ORR and everything comes out.

Billy, I totally agree with you. What an embarrassment to her kids!

Thomas

Beligerent drunnks need to stay home AKA Anita
Yes Anita this show what others and you know about open records, stealing governemtn documents,yes sparky it'a crime! Damn more stupid in El Paso!
The police report was taken unlawfully better take a look at #6 and understand the word possesses. Since the record was obtained with out going through official open record process it was obtained unlawful so any one who was in possession of the police report committed a crime. That just for starts. We could go on and cite more Texas criminal code for theft of governemtn documents but then it would be a waste of time with the those stupid in El Paso like you Anita.
Texas Penal Code § 37.10
a) A person commits an offense if he:
(1) knowingly makes a false entry in, or false alteration of, a governmental record;
(2) makes, presents, or uses any record, document, or thing with knowledge of its falsity and with intent that it be taken as a genuine governmental record;
(3) intentionally destroys, conceals, removes, or otherwise impairs the verity, legibility, or availability of a governmental record;
(4) possesses, sells, or offers to sell a governmental record or a blank governmental record form with intent that it be used unlawfully;
(5) makes, presents, or uses a governmental record with knowledge of its falsity;  or
(6) possesses, sells, or offers to sell a governmental record or a blank governmental record form with knowledge that it was obtained unlawfully.
(b) It is an exception to the application of Subsection (a)(3) that the governmental record is destroyed pursuant to legal authorization or transferred under Section 441.204, Government Code.  With regard to the destruction of a local government record, legal authorization includes compliance with the provisions of Subtitle C, Title 6, Local Government Code. [FN1]
(c)(1) Except as provided by Subdivisions (2), (3), and (4) and by Subsection (d), an offense under this section is a Class A misdemeanor unless the actor's intent is to defraud or harm another, in which event the offense is a state jail felony.
(2) An offense under this section is a felony of the third degree if it is shown on the trial of the offense that the governmental record was:
(A) a public school record, report, or assessment instrument required under Chapter 39, Education Code, data reported for a school district or open-enrollment charter school to the Texas Education Agency through the Public Education Information Management System (PEIMS) described by Section 42.006, Education Code, under a law or rule requiring that reporting, or a license, certificate, permit, seal, title, letter of patent, or similar document issued by government, by another state, or by the United States, unless the actor's intent is to defraud or harm another, in which event the offense is a felony of the second degree;
(B) a written report of a medical, chemical, toxicological, ballistic, or other expert examination or test performed on physical evidence for the purpose of determining the connection or relevance of the evidence to a criminal action; or
(C) a written report of the certification, inspection, or maintenance record of an instrument, apparatus, implement, machine, or other similar device used in the course of an examination or test performed on physical evidence for the purpose of determining the connection or relevance of the evidence to a criminal action;  or
(D) a search warrant issued by a magistrate.
(3) An offense under this section is a Class C misdemeanor if it is shown on the trial of the offense that the governmental record is a governmental record that is required for enrollment of a student in a school district and was used by the actor to establish the residency of the student.
(4) An offense under this section is a Class B misdemeanor if it is shown on the trial of the offense that the governmental record is a written appraisal filed with an appraisal review board under Section 41.43(a-1), Tax Code, that was performed by a person who had a contingency interest in the outcome of the appraisal review board hearing.
(d) An offense under this section, if it is shown on the trial of the offense that the governmental record is described by Section 37.01(2)(D), is:
(1) a Class B misdemeanor if the offense is committed under Subsection (a)(2) or Subsection (a)(5) and the defendant is convicted of presenting or using the record;
(2) a felony of the third degree if the offense is committed under:
(A) Subsection (a)(1), (3), (4), or (6);  or
(B) Subsection (a)(2) or (5) and the defendant is convicted of making the record;  and
(3) a felony of the second degree, notwithstanding Subdivisions (1) and (2), if the actor's intent in committing the offense was to defraud or harm another.
(e) It is an affirmative defense to prosecution for possession under Subsection (a)(6) that the possession occurred in the actual discharge of official duties as a public servant.
(f) It is a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(1), (a)(2), or (a)(5) that the false entry or false information could have no effect on the government's purpose for requiring the governmental record.
(g) A person is presumed to intend to defraud or harm another if the person acts with respect to two or more of the same type of governmental records or blank governmental record forms and if each governmental record or blank governmental record form is a license, certificate, permit, seal, title, or similar document issued by government.
(h) If conduct that constitutes an offense under this section also constitutes an offense under Section 32.48 or 37.13, the actor may be prosecuted under any of those sections.
(i) With the consent of the appropriate local county or district attorney, the attorney general has concurrent jurisdiction with that consenting local prosecutor to prosecute an offense under this section that involves the state Medicaid program.
(j) It is not a defense to prosecution under Subsection (a)(2) that the record, document, or thing made, presented, or used displays or contains the statement “NOT A GOVERNMENT DOCUMENT” or another substantially similar statement intended to alert a person to the falsity of the record, document, or thing, unless the record, document, or thing displays the statement diagonally printed clearly and indelibly on both the front and back of the record, document, or thing in solid red capital letters at least one-fourth inch in hei
- See more at: http://codes.findlaw.com/tx/penal-code/penal-sect-37-10.html#sthash.DuUVHgPx.dpuf

Thomas

Also for the stupid in El Paso
Taking government documents unlawful and is looked on as criminal fraud in the state of Texas especially if it is done by an elected official and the intent is proven to hurt others by the misuse of such documents.
Once again a crime has been committed at city hall. Martin may want to stay in Florida until this is cleared up because he may end up in jail if he comes back to El Paso for possessing stolen government documents if someone pushes it. Bet money El Paso PD isn't very happy their documents are stolen and passed around with out someone being held accountable. Also it opens the question how secure are El Paso PD's documents and records?

Max Powers

Thomas,

You okay, lil' buddy?

Love,

Max

Thomas

Max
Just fine as wine but will not let people pass off committing criminal acts in government as if it is OK and look the other way. So we stood up alone on this big deal at least we had the guts and knowing the difference between right and wrong and to speak out.
Max and other we are not liked by Vince either so please do not believe we are trying to defend their actions.
Max every one should have a problem with this. Martin asked for this report through an ORR and got noting but a city official leaked it. Already the city has a some issues playing loose and fast with open records but some now can go get documents without having to follow the process set down by law. Max you and me have to follow the process for ORR so if we have to follow the process then everybody else should have do the same.Surely you are not going to stand on the non-sense that Martin is the press. Really! Max you think it's OK and cool? Oh Max we have been told who leaked the police report so for the city official who did it your stupid ass isn't protected,was outed real quick. So if we were able to figure it out in short order than how long do you think it would take the El Paso PD to do so? Once again Max more stupid in El Paso.

Chulo from El Chuco

Max, I don't think Thomas is ok.

Thomas

Chulo from El ChucoNo your the one that is not right. Gutless,spineless and a coward hiding behind your key board fits you well. Yep we are honest enough to admit we are bat shit crazy so do not fuck with the crazy person. ;O) Once again you can blow me.

Beligerent drunks need to stay home

Wow, Thomas, you need to calm down. This is a blog with opinions. Nothing to get so upset about. Life is too short.

Thomas

Beligerent drunks need to stay home
A crime was committed but no big deal. Also no problem with a opinion but when you take a shot at us we have not problem giving it back in full measure. You do not see Anita and others just say you are wrong and supporting what they claim with facts but took it to a personal level which is cool but do not complain when you get a whole heaping helping of the same back at you.
May the force be with you...dumbass!;O)

Beligerent drunks need to stay home

Have a cold one, Thomas!

Y Que!

Thomas, try decaf. It helps.

One knows One

Can't beat a crook unless you become a crook. Not cool but effective.

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